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Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:00 am

Dear EU Team,

Question: Today Prank jailed Toast for 'laming'. Toast didn't knew he gets banned when he quits server while being jailed.

I am a little confused now. Is Prank allowed to jail clients on server on his own will and is he  allowed to play jk eu lugormod 1 man police army?

00:55:12 - (1) Prank: anyways i hope toast leant his lesson

Just funny how a guy that started playing 2 weeks ago, cried constantly about laming last week, feels superbadass about admin now.

Pls clarify if ppl with 1337 admin or in general clients with admin are allowed to enforce rules with jail or mute on their own, or if this must go trough UFO/BOB/DYD court first.

Edit: I know u get only tempbanned if u leave while muted or jailed, still this is a question in general, can those ppl enforce rule and admin punish on their own.

Thanks


Edit:

Here Team EU, u can see what happens if u hand out admin to kids without telling them how far they can go with it.
00:58:14 - Juggernaut on Acid has been jailed.
00:58:38 - (1) Prank: hi jug how r u
00:58:42 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: now unjail me
00:58:53 - (1) Prank: as long as u say your sorru
00:58:54 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: classic complex
00:58:55 - (12) Michael: Acid finally getting what he needs
00:58:55 - (1) Prank: y
00:58:59 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: he was little bitch
00:59:05 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: now he got admin rights
00:59:08 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: and is abusing it
00:59:09 - (1) Prank: /kick
00:59:10 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: cause he suck
00:59:20 - (12) Michael: Acid remeber when u spawnraped?
00:59:21 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: like police
00:59:31 - (12) Michael: Acid must pay for his sins
00:59:33 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: they get bullied and school
00:59:37 - (7) FullMetaLZackB: dont be a hypocrite
00:59:42 - (1) Prank: acid u can say sorru to me and mich
00:59:53 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: then get police badge and think they became god
00:59:55 - (7) FullMetaLZackB: BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:59:58 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: but they are still little pussies
01:00:01 - (1) Prank: ahahhaha
01:00:02 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: like you
01:00:18 - (1) Prank: acid plz stop being mean
01:00:26 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: you are telling me?
01:00:31 - (1) Prank: yes
01:00:34 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: you are being little bitch
01:00:36 - (1) Prank: say sorry
01:00:38 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: i wont
01:00:46 - (1) Prank: okay well enjoy
01:00:49 - (7) FullMetaLZackB: imagine if u rg by mistake ):
01:00:50 - (13) Juggernaut on Acid: ok bb
01:00:54 - (1) Prank: afk going for a cig
01:00:58 - Juggernaut on Aci disconnected

Great results so far, jails Acid, provokes him, feels badass and affords excuse, wents afk cig smoking, gets Acid quit and banned too. Great job.

If you allow this, you will get this server with help of 'client-admin-police' and micheal into RS FG NOX 2. "Dont lame or be frozen, keep laming and be jailed" "Dont say foul language or muted".

Consider.

Gz, you created a monster:
01:13:08 - (1) Prank: mich jug was harrasing padwans and toast is always killing other people they deserved it

Micheal tries to help him giving him advices but earns a warning for pissing off, will he be banned too?
01:12:28 - (1) Prank: hello guys
01:12:33 - (12) Michael: Prank
01:12:36 - (1) Prank: yes
01:12:42 - (12) Michael: I think you need to tone it down a bit
01:12:55 - (12) Michael: You made a lot of people upset
01:13:06 - (12) Michael: I think you would make a good admin
01:13:08 - (1) Prank: mich jug was harrasing padwans and toast is always killing other people they deserved it
01:13:23 - (12) Michael: Prank, you should examine it
01:13:28 - (12) Michael: Don't go right it
01:13:30 - (12) Michael: in
01:13:41 - (12) Michael: Take a look at what he does
01:13:46 - (12) Michael: Then discuss with admins
01:13:47 - (1) Prank: ikr but they both deserved it
01:13:55 - (12) Michael: Yes
01:13:56 - (1) Prank: i have acctuky ]
01:14:05 - (12) Michael: But you shouldn't ban them
01:14:06 - (1) Prank: discused it with ufo]
01:14:13 - (12) Michael: Did he agree?
01:14:21 - (1) Prank: i didnt fucking ban them they eft as sson as they were jailed!!!!!!!!!
01:14:45 - (12) Michael: Well, you should do something other than instant jail
01:14:47 - (1) Prank: i would of said plz do not do that again and set them free but they left lol
01:14:54 - (12) Michael: Prank
01:14:58 - (12) Michael: Talk first
01:14:59 - (1) Prank: yes!!
01:15:08 - (12) Michael: Don't automatically jail them
01:15:22 - (12) Michael: If there is a robber dont automatically send them to jail
01:15:28 - (12) Michael: Interogate them
01:15:29 - (1) Prank: mich ur really anyoiying i gave u everything earlier and bevcaus eufo was there u said help ufo prak is abusing m
01:15:39 - (1) Prank: ufo
01:15:48 - (12) Michael: Prank, as much as I enjoy what you have dont
01:15:50 - (12) Michael: done
01:15:58 - (12) Michael: You might be in some trouble
01:16:04 - (12) Michael: On fourms there is a topic
01:16:09 - (1) Prank: no i wont trust me
01:16:18 - (12) Michael: And I'm afraid you'll never get admin agian
01:16:33 - (1) Prank: mich last warrning ur pssing me off thnx
01:16:41 - (12) Michael: I'm with you but next time dont dont jump to it
01:16:53 - (12) Michael: I'm just saying
01:16:59 - (12) Michael: I'm going to be going now
01:17:08 - (12) Michael: To see what's on fourms
01:17:09 - (1) Prank: well u need to shut that mouth of urs sometimes lol
01:17:24 - (12) Michael: I'm speaking for the majority
01:17:44 - (1) Prank: ur not involed so dont bother
01:18:02 - (12) Michael: True
01:18:11 - (12) Michael: But think first, act later
01:18:14 - Michael disconnected

So pissy.. so bossy


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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by SgtMichalek on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:25 am

EDIT: I just saw the extra part you put in so I made some adjustments.

Brother,
Whoever gave Prank admin in the first place should've gave a set of guidelines to where Prank's powers stop. As it shows above, I did talk to Prank to tone it down a bit. I know I think an admin should make a official guideline somewhere about what Temporary Admins can or can't do.


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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by Prevara on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:26 am

http://puu.sh/ozplE/f8821f4e5c.jpg
This is not how admin should act. Also I am uploading video of him abusing invulnerability and pushing gripping cancer around(He did it to me too but haven't recorded it) then jailing him when cancer concussions him. Then he jailed toast for indefinite time and toast got banned.

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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:28 am

Prevara wrote:This is not how admin should act.

Thanks.. couldn't have said it in less words.
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:33 am

Edit: Toasts original reaction after ban on skype

[00:42:13] Toast: R u there
[00:42:59] Toast: BUSHIE BRO
[00:44:27] Toast: Halp
***SCREENSHOT OF BEING BANNED SCREEN***
[00:44:44] M.: HAHAHAHA
[00:44:46] M.: damn what did u do xD
[00:44:51] M.: i was ingame the whole time
[00:44:58] M.: why u quit while being jailed xD
[00:45:05] Toast: I didn't do anything and prankz jailed me
[00:45:15] M.: prankz def.! cant jail xD
[00:45:15] Toast: I thought I wouldn't get banned if I reconned
[00:45:18] M.: never never never
[00:45:29] Toast: Do /admins
[00:45:31] M.: u get auto TEMP banned if u disco in jail or mute
[00:45:37] M.: i left server
[00:45:52] Toast: Well get back and tell that nerd to unban me if possible
[00:45:59] M.: it was just mapchange
[00:46:03] M.: u r unbanned now
[00:46:14] Toast: Still not
[00:46:34] M.: then u must wait one mapchange normall
[00:46:38] M.: do u have a rounter?
[00:46:42] M.: router*
[00:46:44] M.: u use a router*?
[00:46:47] Toast: Ya
[00:46:52] M.: restard router
[00:47:00] M.: unpower and power it again
[00:47:02] Toast: But there's people on my network they will get pussy bro
[00:47:05] Toast: Pissy
[00:47:07] M.: xD
[00:47:09] M.: xDDDDDD
[00:47:10] M.: ya
[00:47:13] M.: thats the problem
[00:47:16] M.: then wait
[00:47:19] M.: ill tell them xD
[00:47:27] M.: but normally u dont get untempbanned
[00:47:29] Toast: TELL PRANK THATS BASTARD
[00:47:32] M.: since it lasts one map only too
[00:47:33] M.: wait
[00:47:47] Toast: Did he pay for admin or something
[00:47:57] Toast: I didn't do shit and he jailed me
[00:48:00] M.: i cant belive he does lol
[00:48:28] M.: i see
[00:48:33] M.: i think he paid xD
[00:48:46] Toast: Yeah... But why would they give him jail
[00:48:50] M.: i think his admin is too weak for unban
[00:49:00] M.: since unban is a strong admin cmd
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by SgtMichalek on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:34 am

Prevara wrote:http://puu.sh/ozplE/f8821f4e5c.jpg
This is not how admin should act. Also I am uploading video of him abusing invulnerability and pushing gripping cancer around(He did it to me too but haven't recorded it) then jailing him when cancer concussions him. Then he jailed toast for indefinite time and toast got banned.
I think we could all say Prank went a little too far with what was in his power.
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by Prevara on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:41 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUjaXSu3N0Q

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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:59 am

I have screenshots of prankz abusing godmode and noclip, also noclipping his friends all, also attacking in godmode for 'trying to kill him' while hes in godmode.

Also, i have a demo i would like to send or upload for you guys that shows all his abuse with godmode, he godmodes himself, then pushes me off the whole time, while i cant hurt him anyways. also he noclips all his friends..3 guys.

Also, in the demo i get jailed for taking a demo of his abuse.

He even said: 01:52:05 - (1) Prank: there u go how about this for a demo

I seriously want this discussed, Ufo Bob tell me how or where u want the demo, i can send you by email maybe, or via skype, otherwhise i can upload it to mediafire. Let me know.

Edit: Screenshots i will upload tomorrow to an image upload side, but they are nearly worthless if u watch the demo.
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by SgtMichalek on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:02 am

Before this gets heated up, I want to say that I have nothing against Prank. I think he made some wrong choices because he wasn't given any guidelines, as far as I know, on what he should've done while he was admin. I'd like to remain neutral in this.
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by Prevara on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:06 am

bushido upload it now so they can see it earlier as posible

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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by Prevara on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:13 am

And now he jailed Raptor, elite and me again for indefinite time and all of us got banned

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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:16 am

More logs of admin abuse:

Elite Acid und Raptor being jailed for 'laming' inside shuttle.
I also have screenshot of Prank trying to enter shuttle WITH GODMODE.

Prank managed to get all those leaving.. elite acid and raptor, jailed for laming inside shuttle, they quit, and banned. very depopulating.

02:05:37 - ^tG >> ßµsh!dø* entered the game
02:07:30 - Juggernaut on Acid has been jailed.
02:07:34 - elite has been jailed.

02:07:36 - (Cool elite: LOL
02:07:38 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: unjail me idiot
02:07:41 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: that is shuttle

02:07:44 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: just report it jugger
02:07:46 - Raptor has been jailed.
02:07:50 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: better mako another demo
02:07:52 - (1) Prank: u are never ginna be free
02:07:56 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: seriously guys get on the forum and report it
02:08:01 - (1) Prank: yes
02:08:15 - (0) Raptor: out of my way rat
02:08:17 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: breaks into shuttle with godmode
02:08:19 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: another point
02:08:20 - elite has been unjailed.
02:08:22 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: keep going
02:08:24 - elite has been jailed.
02:08:24 - elite disconnected

02:08:32 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: and elite got banned
02:08:34 - (0) Raptor: first rule in server says
02:08:39 - (0) Raptor: do not depopulate server
02:08:42 - (0) Raptor: u broke it

02:08:43 - (6) ^tG >> ßµsh!dø*: wait i update
02:08:52 - Raptor disconnected
02:09:19 - (1) Prank: hello guys
02:09:39 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: and raptor got banned
02:09:51 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: i am so going to fuck you prank when you lose your admin
02:09:52 - (1) Prank: only for 15 mins
02:09:53 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: yes
02:10:08 - (1) Prank: no u aint
02:10:15 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: yes i will
02:10:20 - (1) Prank: wanna bet bro
02:10:20 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: like i did till now
02:10:30 - (1) Prank: u have never fucked me up mate
02:10:36 - (1) Prank: ive always had the upper hand
02:10:40 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: ofc
02:11:18 - (2) Juggernaut on Acid: tell him that he is stupid idiot
02:11:47 - (1) Prank: lol u lame or mess with another padawan then i will jail u
02:12:01 - Juggernaut on Aci disconnected

Screenshot provided by Raptor:
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:17 am

Michael wrote:Before this gets heated up, I want to say that I have nothing against Prank. I think he made some wrong choices because he wasn't given any guidelines, as far as I know, on what he should've done while he was admin. I'd like to remain neutral in this.

If you want to remain neutral, remain quiet please
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by SgtMichalek on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:20 am

bro wrote:If you want to remain neutral, remain quiet please
I'm planning on doing that.
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by bro on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:25 am

Ufo, Bob, i want you to read whole topic please.
Read highlighted logs closely please.

And tell me how where i should upload the jka demo file, so you can play it on your jka.
I sadly cant convert and upload to YT but i have the original jk.record file.

Edit: Basically my question is, like in first post, is Prank allowed to use admin to enforce rules as client.
For me server moderators are bob, ufo and dyd. since when client-admins decide whats right and wrong and do punish people, thats new. pls clarify this.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUjaXSu3N0Q
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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:43 am

wow that escalated quickly LOL

It's not that he wasn't lectured, but I'll make sure it's done more properly.

For now he can use admin only if at least a single another admin is present online, otherwise commands aren't technically available. I'll lift this restriction once I'm sure he'll do ok.


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Re: Clarification on rules

Post by pete on Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:31 pm

give a monkey an ak47 i wonder what goes wrong
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